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AC or DC Electrical Energy related topics => AC Power Measurement of appliances & Technical discussion => Topic started by: Kiriakos GR on April 20, 2017, 10:40:55 PM

Title: Electricity saving box got a second life due one Western-Germany capacitor
Post by: Kiriakos GR on April 20, 2017, 10:40:55 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ladies and Gentlemen, and young Kids, and old Kids,

We proudly present the best way so you to waste 5$ or Euro (at least) and get thin Air instead.

Now if you are heavily unlucky there is a chance one capacitor this to go bad and LED light this will stop working.
This translates that in total darkness you will possibly get lost in a dark room, if this gadget serves you as night light.

Seriously now, a few knowledgeable and vast majority of Non-knowledgeable they have an opinion if this thing works.

As professional electrician my analysis will be simple and understandable by every one.
This thing it is actually two things in to a single package.
Major component this is large black box (capacitor) this supposedly helping large motors of 15.000W up to 25.000 W them to reduce power consumption, by added correction in energy usage.

In your home you do not have such motors,  and only motor this coming close to those requirements this is Air-condition units, but in them the factory which made them has predict their behavior (product design by electrician ENGINEER) and they have add such capacitors inside of  all Large Air-condition units (25.000 btu + ).
Latest technology named INVERTER this further improved power usage, and true Green devices now using real intelligent (electronics) which they control use of energy.
Soft start of motor this reduces wasted energy just by it self, no to speak of smart monitoring of any aspect and even the temperature of the motor it self.


The second part of our magic box, this is two or one LED lights, a simple power on indicator (night lights) and this is all about it.

Now one single capacitor at 4.5uF this cost 0.5$ or Euro in every electronics components store.

The ones manufacturing such power savers they are not idiots, they aim our wallets, and all that they care is having a product in the market and make money from it.

Does this thing save us money in any way?
No because in Europe and in every known country over planet earth, household power meters (especially analog ones) are unable to calculate or record power disturbances’ caused by motors.
Larger motor in household this is your hair dryer at 2000W which this is tiny in magnitude and this working only for five minutes continuously.

How much money this gadget will save in long term (a year time)?
Answer: Start reading this topic from the beginning, as many times it is needed until your question this finds it answer, which it is here.
Title: Re: Electricity saving box got a second life due one Western-Germany capacitor
Post by: Kiriakos GR on January 31, 2026, 02:28:35 PM
This must be my lucky day !!  ;D   and yours too.   :)

Some one whom throw away 38 EUR at 2014, he thrown this magical product at city trash and this be boxed.  8)

Technology of power saving this invented in Germany.
Product world wide distribution due USA.
Made in China, unbranded.


AI assistance:
Transient spike filters (or surge suppressors) protect electrical circuits by limiting, clamping, or filtering out high-voltage, short-duration transients—caused by switching, lightning, or ESD—using components like TVS diodes, varistors (MOVs), or LC filters.
They prevent damage to sensitive loads by diverting excess energy away from the circuit.

ITTSB.EU assistance:
My gift to my self at New year 2025, this was an excellent power meter for low energy measurements.
No more flimsy power measurements, of stand-by power, along much greater amount of electrical parameters over a single LED panel.
 
At my side of the world, we do not use the description of Transient spike filter, we use to describe them as electrical filter anti-parasitic.
The understanding of this theory, this comes from FM radio band, anything this knocking down an FM radio receiver good reception, this is parasitic energy.     

AI assistance:
An electrical antiparasitic filter (or EMI filter) reduces unwanted high-frequency electromagnetic interference, noise, or voltage spikes to admissible levels in electronic devices, preventing malfunctions or damage.
They are commonly used in appliances, industrial machines, and inverters to ensure electromagnetic compatibility (EMC).

ITTSB.EU assistance:
No matter of words in use, the fact is just one.
One scammer he deployed huge amount of propaganda, so to convince consumers, that they can save money by using an simple electrical anti-parasitic filter. :P

The photographs below these are an true electrical master class.  :)
Title: Re: Electricity saving box got a second life due one Western-Germany capacitor
Post by: Andrew-88 on February 01, 2026, 07:53:43 PM
As far I remember, they were legal actions against the distributor in Greece.
This is of how, this scam ended and or stopped the advertising at national TV. 

38 EUR retail at 2014 ?
He could buy 40 of these in China.   :(

Nowadays the frequent EU safety products inspections, they would not aloud this trash passing from our borders.
Title: Re: Electricity saving box got a second life due one Western-Germany capacitor
Post by: Kiriakos GR on February 01, 2026, 08:21:25 PM
Well, as electrical anti-parasitic filter, this toy might  have some value.
It might be able to suppress electrical noise caused by On/Off switches.

Everything has to do with the age and the quality of the wiring of an electrical installation.

My own puzzling this has to do, with the fact that neither an REAL oscilloscope, this is not able to review spikes or line noise, as this appear at these drawings.
An REAL oscilloscope, this can review line noise, only in the peaks of a sinusoidal waveform.     
Title: Re: Electricity saving box got a second life due one Western-Germany capacitor
Post by: overvolt on February 01, 2026, 10:55:01 PM
as this appear at these drawings.

Left one this is voltage, Right one this is for current.
I go stuck with the question, of how much current you can smooth out with just a 4.7uF capacitor?  ;D

I am glad that this toy when out from the market, mostly because we electricians, we do not have to answer any more, relative questions these asked from our customers.
All modern electrical appliances, they have some sort of power factor correction of their own.
External device for power factor correction, this is unnecessary.   
Title: Re: Electricity saving box got a second life due one Western-Germany capacitor
Post by: Kiriakos GR on February 02, 2026, 09:34:03 AM
At 2026, my find this has now a better use.  8)

As calibration standard for AC power meter performance tests.
Watt  0.407
PF 0003 ~ 0004
AC mA 414

These are the most repeatable delivered measurements.  ;) 
(with out actively stabilized ACV)