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Author Topic: Quality USB 2.0 Active Extension Repeater Cable for UPS backup power supply  (Read 216 times)

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This time my internet research, at finding BEST of Quality USB 2.0 Active Extension Repeater Cable, this started backwards.  ;D

I was in need to use USB 2.0 Active Extension so to relocate my USB dongle an High Range Bluetooth 4.0 (quality hardware).
After of a few days of research, I did discover and actually order it, an DELOCK 82308  EU import (Germany).

Then my mind wanted to find, how many others worldwide, they are distributing, this successful recipe over the Globe?
And here is my find for the market of the USA and EU, Eaton U026-016

Eaton added this product in their portfolio especially for connection over UPS backup power supply.
Branded medium to large UPS in wattage, they come with special software UPS monitor and manager for many UPS units, over a network.
My APC SUA1000XL, this is one of them.
Because my unit this is next to my workstation PC, I never needed extended length of USB 2.0 cable.
     
Up to date, I did not had any recommendation to offer, in favor of such USB 2.0 Active Extension cables.
But this changed today.  :)

DELOCK 82308 this is distributed by having industrial customers in mind.
Eaton U026-016 this is distributed also by having industrial customers in mind, plus it is double tested, quality control and compatibility with UPS backup power supply.
UPS backup power supply, they use special commands over USB 2.0 protocol, this communication type this is named as Smart signaling.

EATON Page ( Tripp Lite U026-016) : DC Current delivery 150mA
https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/skuPage.U026-016.html

DELOCK 82308 : DC Current delivery 500mA
https://www.ittsb.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2383.0
     
Notes: I am not convinced that Tripp Lite U026-016 this is limited to DC Current delivery of 150mA.
By 90% something when wrong when the specifications passed due their marketing department.
Power line this is a pair of 22AWG of copper = not a cheap toy at 28AWG. 
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Notes: I am not convinced that Tripp Lite U026-016 this is limited to DC Current delivery of 150mA.
By 90% something when wrong when the specifications passed due their marketing department.
Power line this is a pair of 22AWG of copper = not a cheap toy at 28AWG.

Tripp Lite if you need REAL Electricians them to inspect product performance ?  Then CALL me in Greece.

Indeed Tripp Lite brand, this shooting it own feet for years.  :P
The supposed specification they are for full length daisy chain.
(two active cables 20m its) 131 feet (40 meters) daisy chain = 90mA of power to the connected device (100mA consumed due all active chips + loss due cable resistance)

(five of active cables 5m its) 80 feet (25 meters) daisy chain = 150mA of power to the connected device (250mA consumed due all active chips+ loss due cable resistance)

Tripp Lite single cable
65.61 feet (20 meters) =  DC current unspecified
16 feet (4.9 meters) =  DC current unspecified
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From our side of the pond, we do have by 90% confirmed feedback.
32 feet (10 meters) 28/22AWG with data booster chip, at 98% of cases at driving WiFi dongle (350mA dynamic load ) they do work.
While the 5 meters cable, this is most powerful and never fails under any application.  :)

In conclusion,
USB 2.0 Active Extension Cable for UPS backup power supply, this can be safely extended up to 40 meters, because it is not required any use of DC electrical power.
Identical safe bet, this is the application of USB Printer cable extension.
 
But there is always and unseen factors, that will spoil the day.
Cables routing it should be away of sources that can create radiated pollution.
Even double shielded cables they have limits, best advice this is routing communication cables away from power cables.  ;)
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So far I talked about quality, but what is actually a low quality USB 2.0 Active Extension Cable ?

In practical terms, the hart of the system this is Terminus FE chip inside.
Terminus FE 1.1 chip = High performance, this able to be in daisy chain.

Terminus FE 1.1S chip = Low performance, this is unable to work in daisy chain.
 
At our Europe Village,we have such a branded example named as  Digitus (Germany).
They are selling:
DA-70130-4   = 5m active extension cable
DA-73100-1   = 10m active extension cable

They advertise both cables for single link use, and no word about daisy chain.
Digitus this offers tremendously poor documentation.
They do not mention that their cables are Taiwanese 28/20AWG
They do not mention Terminus FE 1.1S chip
Its like them challenging buyers imagination.  :P 
 
But here it is my own lucky find. 
The damned original product design drawing.  :)
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But here it is my own lucky find. 
The damned original product design drawing.  :)

I can confirm its a damned one  :P
10m  20awg?  5 Ohms expected resistance?
This is possibly written by a 10 years old child, and not from any serious graduated E.E.

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I will agree, most of the writing this cannot be trusted.

But here comes the one million dollars question, the idiots in Germany, why they accepted it as valid?   
This has equal value to Chinese toilet paper.
But the PCB drawing, this alone it can be trusted.   
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